Saturday, April 14, after three years in prison nationalist and former leader of the Movement against illegal immigration (DPNI), Alexander Belov-Potkin decision of the court was placed under house arrest. Special correspondent “the Tape.ru” Michael Karpov talked to him about the fate of the Motherland, the protocols of the elders of Zion, and Lev Trotsky.
in the Morning, in the Meshchansky court is quiet and Sunny. Emergency exits leading to the balcony opened, and the corridors walks a pleasant draught. Slowly, yawning, moving the judges, their assistants, lawyers and bailiffs. On the bench near the 31st of the Cabinet sits a couple — a correspondent of one of the Federal channels and operator, a pleasant looking young man. The girl that coyly flirts with him, bumping into an impregnable wall of indifference, then, bored, immersed in the screen of the smartphone.
In a nearby room on the same bench located a lawyer. Apparently, he went too early — session to wait long. But after a while footsteps are heard down the hall, his colleague.
Shalom Shabbat! — he welcomes an old acquaintance.
— What is Sabbath, you just something? Today, Tuesday! — he laughs.
Today in petty-bourgeois court of Moscow held a hearing on various matters, most quite ordinary. Probably, it is the proceedings involving these young lawyers. However, in the neighboring 31st office planned something unusual: there will be another hearing in one case a nationalist, former leader of the Movement against illegal immigration (DPNI) Alexander Belov (Potkin). That is why it is missing an operator and a reporter for the Federal channel, and next to them — the correspondent of”.ru”.
after a while one of the lawyers Potkin — Igor Popovski. The defendant, who a few days ago after more than three years in prison detention facility was placed under house arrest, yet — he must bring the bailiff. Popovsky says the correspondent “Tapes.ru” on the endless string of cases in which his client is or was involved in: extremism, theft, incitement to overthrow the constitutional system in Kazakhstan… All of them, according to the position of protection and the defendant, political, and requested him for punishment — inadequate.
Finally, in the corridor heard footsteps, and the door to the hall very Potkin. Since he last appeared in a public space, a lot has changed. Dark hair is growing in gray, the face ran wrinkles, and the lips seem forever frozen in a sarcastic smile.
He says that is now under the most severe form of house arrest: he is not allowed to use any form of communication, to send and receive mail, walking — in General, the same as in prison, in principle, can do. Except that the TV at home. “Not seized” — sadly he jokes. The defense will try to change the situation, but what happens is still unknown.
Prison changes a man. Have you changed Potkin, and most importantly — his views? According to him, it happened shortly before he was behind bars. “I realized that of course, you can fight the system, go to the barricades, but this turns out to be counterproductive situation: honest people who want to live in a legal state and do not want war and aggression, turned into outcasts and enemies. They are all trying to overcome, to submit to the agents of the West, criminals,” he says sadly. How Potkin saw the state and represented interaction with him was far from reality.
Now it is difficult to judge what was happening in the world and in Russia. “I have for long time been denied access to the Internet, looked at the world only through the eyes REN-TV and Prokopenko. So I know that the main problem now is the reptilians, and, most likely, connected to trump” jokes Potkin.
You watched the news? Comrade Kiselyov recently seen? — asks the correspondent of”.ru”.
Yes, Yes. With him, by the way, all right? — picture concerns asked the nationalist.
is Not willing to bet, not personally familiar.
Very nervous looks, maybe he’s a psychologist, a psychiatrist ponablyudat?
— He constantly exaggerates the theme of migrants in Europe. Don’t you think that he, and the authorities in General, as it took over your narrative?
Our narrative for the most part picked up the whole country. The fact that in 2003 was declared by me, became state policy, and I’m getting scared: have I professed such horrible views? says a former leader of the DPNI.
Potkin going to continue the conversation, but this time the door opens on the 31st of office, and he together with the lawyer has to get away to the hearing of another case. He offers to continue the conversation in a more relaxed atmosphere in his apartment, where he is now under house arrest.
Sleeping area Orekhovo-Borisovo. Ordinary, slightly shabby brick house close to subway, surrounded by new buildings. In the yard the smell of oil paint — man 20 Central Asians to the economic Blues is to paint the fences, but the majority sit on the benches at the entrances and fun racket.
the Correspondent of”.ru” up to the fifth floor and rings the doorbell. Opens the owner of the apartment and after a brief search of Slippers for the guest that forwards to the kitchen, where cooks dinner the owner’s wife Olga, and his son Alex eats pasta. Olga throws the correspondent “Tapes.ru” anxious look, the boy looks with fear and interest.
While Alexander Potkin looking for a Cup to water the guest fresh coffee, the one trying to interrupt the awkward silence, asked his wife: “What was all of this move?” The question, of course, is not entirely appropriate. “Fine. Strange, but how else?” — she says sullenly.
Potkin takes matters into her own hands:— When I was given seven and a half years, it was unknown how this whole story ends, he says. — I was determined that is generally some way to one end. And I said to her: listen, no claims, all yours, I’m not there, deleted from the list, and so on. And she looked at me and said, “I gave you so many years of my life, and you just decided to get rid of me? Nothing will come of it!”
But, according to Potkin, he saw the guys that threw his wife, when they were given eight years or more. For some, it was a terrible tragedy. Its the camera man is actually because of this died.
How can this happen in prison, when the inmates, the guards? That day Potkin was on the court, and the day before warned the chief that this man is not all right to health. Talked to him a psychologist, but apparently not carefully. The result is a so that he was left alone.
there’s three of Us in the cell, and all except him, SK was taken to investigative actions in the case of the Governor of the Komi Republic Vyacheslav Gaizer, says the former leader of the DPNI. This man was in control he has a number of economic projects. The investigation, seeing it as a flint-guy, a person at first glance powerful, beautiful, but in reality weak, suffering separation from family, promised him that if he signed a plea agreement and stipulate their accomplices, they will let him out. He cheated, that’s all.
“Eat faster,” hurry Stavr Olga. “Let him sit, he’s interesting,” says Potkin. But soon the boy gets up and leaves. Potkin’s wife puts on the table tomatoes, fried peppers in batter and plates of pasta, and he finally sits down at the table.
“Ribbon.ru”: We stayed in the court that you are currently watching the Federal channels, I think: have you professed such horrible views?
Potkin: At the time Dmitry Rogozin when we are in the framework of the Congress of Russian communities and the party “Great Russia” in 2006-2008 quite closely collaborated, once said: “You incorrectly perceive the current government as an opponent or even enemy. In fact it is just a competitor who would not want this field to see any other players.” That is, all uncontrollable characters must be stripped, and patriotism as a state idea should prevail.
on the one hand, all this judgment, on the other — it is strange that the attempt to get rid of competitors was not done by absorption (if you speak the language of business). Take the same Demushkin and say to him: here, Kadyrov is allowed to build a Chechnya of a Chechen national laws, and you take care of the Kostroma region. We are sure that you steal will not be patriot, honest, along with you check. And he was sent to camp. Well, the same stupidity. What he did wrong is unclear.
he was locked up for some ridiculous thing on his page in “Vkontakte” found a photo in which was recorded the mass public the event allowed where one or more people holding a poster with the slogan, recognized as extremist. It’s too much, sorry.
To be sure? No, I think that, you know, as a Lefty at the time ran, the generals said that British guns brick is not clean, and they told him: “come here, Satan!” In the end, the millions of victims of that senseless slaughter, although we just had to stop to clean the gun brick. Not that rifled barrels do, even if the brick is not clean, so they don’t explode.
So there is some dead end, a logical trap. In 90th years in Russia was really all sorts of Islamic and other extremist organizations that threatened the country. There were many of them, they acted tough. [To combat them] used some legal restrictions that could not be described as aimed exclusively against Islamists, so they formulated widely — for example, “to combat the kind of extremism”. A clear definition was not there all stuffed.
Then came the reports revealed how many extremist crimes. Well, for example, 200. Hence, it is necessary to strengthen the fight! Question: how to do it? More criminal cases need, right? All agencies toughen the fight, increase the number of prosecuted. Following the annual meeting, report of the fifth to tenth… “Discovered the growth of extremism and terrorism!” — “Yes you did! I asked you to strengthen the fight!” — “OK, understood, there, step up!” In the end of 2003, a 40 times increase in the number of people convicted for extremism. This is nonsense.
Well, you said earlier about the desire of the authorities to clean the area for yourself.
In a sense, maybe it is a disease of the system. In General, if we analyze the post-Soviet space and not only post-Soviet, wherever people came for the democratic wave to power, and then for some reason didn’t want to leave, — all realized about the same pattern of action. But it is counterproductive, because look: the task is to legitimize, say, the life of the head of state, but in fact it turns protivorechie of the Constitution. Hence, it is necessary to change the Constitution, some to think of the nuances.
This is nonsense. In this regard, I advocate a categorical truth. I believe that the policy is respected when he is not primarily to deceive his people. Take, for example, Berlusconi. Everyone knows he’s a womanizer and all that, and still vote for him because he is such a person. No need to cheat, I must say: Russia (or Belarus — does not matter) tend to monarchy, it is necessary to restore the throne to give to put his heir.
life And just ruler is not a monarch?
Believe me, in the end, he wants it to be left to his son, as did the President and you want to make at least two characters in this space. So, it is not necessary to deceive their own people. If the Aliyev declared himself the Khan of Azerbaijan, it would be more honest. Wouldn’t have to break the law.
Maybe, but modern Western world order seems to be does not imply absolute monarchies.
As we always say, we live in a democratic society, we are more Europe than Asia.
And in Europe in particular there now exist a monarchical state. The role of kings in them seems small, but actually it can be key — such as in England or Norway.
In Britain, the monarch plays an important role in the political life of the country?
of Course. The Royal family of great Britain is a unifying symbol for the whole of the British Commonwealth. According to the Constitution, obeys the Navy, MI5 and many other structures.
When they last used this right?
I believe they use this right constantly. In particular, this is due to numerous scandals in the British house.
so this is just not declared?
Yes, of course.
the same can be said about the Spanish monarchy and the rest?
the Spanish monarchy… Take, for example, Catalonia. It would seem that if there is no monarchy, why would they care?
Country must be one and indivisible, the state never wants to decrease.
This is a myth. A real example from UK: she calmly, through the efforts of Churchill, released absolutely unnecessary areas, which caused damage to the country’s economy and created problems. Why are they needed?
So, Catalonia wants to secede from Spain because in Spain there is a monarch?
I think it’s stereotypical behavior. In fact, even Catalonia could get in Spain more rights than she has now, in accordance with its contribution to the economy of the country.
and so It is fairly self-contained.
700 years, they want more. They Spaniards then cheated.
of Course, they want to become a separate state.
I believe that the right of peoples to self-determination guaranteed by international agreements, and it is desirable for him not to interfere. Especially as the trend is.
we Have very big country. Maybe she could use a real federalization not on paper, but in reality?
Here at all raises the question of local self-government. Russia Ukraine what is the difference? I do not understand. The myth of the multinational Russia is a myth.
it is not in the national. A large territory is always very difficult to manage if there is no center. But if there is a center, all committed to him.
the United States, a small area?
And that small area?
Each state is managed by its Governor, each state its legislation (other than Federal), border…
Agree, if we talk about USA, it is one of the most powerful countries in the world, and its territorial integrity is no separatism is not threatened, and the level of authority of States is very large.
I’m talking about this federalization.
If you can call it federalization, then, of course, Yes, what could be the issues!
we have all the decisions taken by the centre before the centre of all regional authorities accountable, it is not independent.
Well, my thoughts about the state of the device will be six years out of date.
Okay, if you want the monarchy.
I’m not saying I want a monarch. I’m just saying that in fact the President now takes the role very close to the monarch. Why would someone cheat? I want the truth, nothing more.
How true! If he declares himself Emperor or king, it will raise many questions from the international community.
What were the questions, what is the international community? What is there to think, why reinvent the wheel?
So what they then did not declare the monarchy?
spirit is not enough a little.
I do Not know. Themselves. Most people, students who plant for extremism, they’re a threat to someone present? This is ridiculous. Why do they put them? But this is a public threat number one.
do You seriously think that the decisions about what we need to put students accepted at the top?
Probably, there is not negotiated, what the student specifically to be planted, but about the need to prevent the influence of such characters as the Bulk declared on the top, right? It is nonsense, but nevertheless declared. How, in practice, should be applied “monitoring students”? What to do?
Should be the interpretation.
not Any interpretation. The main point of this message: control students. Suddenly they have somewhere else to go to the site.
by the Way, if to speak about the Bulk, how do you now feel about him?
My attitude could change during that time. I know him and I consider if not friends, then still another. And refer. I owe him 50 thousand rubles, which he told me once in 2008 gave on a trip to Ossetia. I keep forgetting to give.
How, in your opinion, can continue the status quo prevailing in our country now?
When highly educated people from the first wave of emigration went to Paris, they thought he’d be back soon. And never returned. Pointless to say, tomorrow, tomorrow everything will fall apart… anything can be anything. When someone says something about punched the bottom of the economy, you can’t even imagine that things could be much worse. Mimicry in the direction of such rulers as Emomali Rahmon or Turkmenbashi or Nazarbayev (with all due respect to Nursultan Abishevich) — all can come to it. In Kazakhstan, the nearest ally of Russia as it is necessary to first President to address? Elbasy. Maybe we, too, will be “a great leader and teacher of all peoples, the President of the Russian Federation”.
we Have the first President of Russia, the second respects.
this will be the second. Why, for example, in Kazakhstan there is a law that can not be interested in accounts of top officials and to bring them to justice? Why Nazarbayev issued this law? Can you imagine that someone is going to stick to his family, while he was the President? No, of course. Can you imagine that if it is not, the law someone will become an obstacle? Either.
why is it needed?
I think this is some kind of attempt to find the elixir of immortality.
Roughly speaking, an amulet like this?
Well, Yes, a pyramid to build, invent, what if embalming is correct, then you’ll live forever.
You once said that there is nothing wrong with what Hitler had abolished elections in Germany, as his democratically elected by the German people.
I wasn’t. It was a joke, maybe not very good, but it sounded like the following. Someone of the correspondents said, “Which way of coming to power is closer to you?” I answer: “of Course, the path of Adolf Hitler.” They interpreted this as support for Nazism, but I misspoke, what I meant democratic way: a legitimate election, the popular vote in a free election.
how these are your words quoted in the media, does not look like a joke.
she pulled out of context. Out of context can be anything you want. Was drinking conversation with the journalists, and in its framework was clearly understood that it was funny.
your quote about the “Protocols of the elders of Zion” is also a joke?
And what is written there?
How are you in my youth with a brother read “the Protocols of the elders of Zion”, see how everything is written, even a Jewish friend gave a reading, and she also said, “Oh, how it all fits!”
It’s true. Indeed, a girl-classmate… no, not a classmate, two years older than me or a year and half Turk, brought me a photo of a document, which, as I learned later, is called “the Protocols of the elders of Zion”.
That’s what she brought you?
Yes, she is. I have read and wondered: Oh, hell no, what started! But then I singled out comments and decided to make investigatory experiment: gave them a Jewess, who was in love with me. And she was so happy! Said how it’s written. These Gentiles — freezing! I freaked out and thought, maybe it works.
So you believe that all of this is true? The scientific community concurs that all this is fake.
What scientific community? It was divided in this matter. See about this document… did you read it?
Briefly, on the diagonal.
I recommend you read and not seen as a program of the Jews to the world, but as a manual for political technologies, given the fact that it was written in the language of the nineteenth century. Awesome stuff, many things work. And it should be done.
So you really need to do or maybe better not?
If you have a problem, you are, relatively, are in the minority, how do you get influence? Of course, it is necessary to control the media to enter the financial markets. To make any changes without resources, complicated. It’s all spelled out. Things that are obvious. Even if it did come up with some raczkowski, the tsarist secret police — no matter who, they are great! Respect. The analysis conducted is clear, and all is then realized in terms of the revolution in Russia, Germany and so on. When in 1903 POPs up a document that predicts all events that will be in 15 years… Even if Wang, without any of the “protocols” were saying something, is trying to interpret. And here, believe me, many thought, here it is the truth.
If you Wang to talk about — most of her quotes just fakes, and the real evidence of her prophecies is very small.
it is no Coincidence that I cited. Because the Protocols of the elders of Zion is not some stamped Zionist organization document. The history of its origin as follows: in the train, which should, in my opinion, is from Basel to Paris was an agent of Russian intelligence for money having had one of the people who was at the first Congress of Zionists in Basel, overwrite with the French… or the Hebrew into French the part of what he allegedly wrote while at this Congress. Congress was? Was. Was there a Jew who went to Paris and there is something sold — I do not know, unknown. But the starting point is that the Russian military intelligence for the emergence of this document chose is the place to be.
Too many assumptions.
Everything else is less provable than the assertion that the Russian intelligence poisoned Skrobala. Poisoned or not? Who knows?! It was like Skripal. Previously, she worked for Russian intelligence, betrayed her? Yes. It turns out, is Russian? Like, it turns out. At the same time, how to prove it?
At the time you at the rally showed the government building and called it “Torah scroll”.
do You think that the Jews really controlled Russia?
so you’d like it to be so?
I wish Russia was ruled by smart people. And now even in some sense is not enough Jews. At least, they would can all fall down.
In the 90-ies there were many Jews.
For this they answer until now! (laughs) No, when I talked about the Torah scroll, it is not really meant nothing but the architectural form of this building. The architect who constructed this building had been used as the idea that building a Torah scroll, tucked away in a pencil case, and this wonderful cube up there… Forgot the name in Hebrew, which on the head are, where are the sacred texts…
Yes, I also forgot… Refresh the memory of the late [here Potkin tells about the Tefillin].
in Short, in the sense that the and invested in this building. It so happened that moved the government. It was. Jews are not to blame that the building looks like all this Torah.
Any negative connotations you didn’t mean then?
No, of course. If they were sitting in the pyramid… Or here in England there is a building similar to a cucumber. I would say then: this cucumber hiding people… and so on. Not because they cucumber, right?
Considering your nationalistic views, quite, you can think of.
you Can say that I myself, not being, unfortunately, a Jew, was a victim of anti-Semitism. The number of charges to me that I am a Jew and should be punished for it, is huge. Published a book, where I am a Hasid with Berezovsky and Belkovsky plan crimes. All of this in caricature. But it’s specifically anti-Semitism to me! And to all the Jews generally.
Now, the Jews look: Potkin nationalist. Some Nazi can wear a yarmulke and laugh, saying, here they are. But a Jew would be offended. If I am a nationalist and anti-Semite, I’m Jewish national clothes is an insult to Jews. If I don’t like that it is also an insult to me because people have the right to choose their nationality, to Express it and, especially, not to be subjected to such discrimination, as enforced enrolment in other people.
they Say, by the way, on this basis, DPNI and split into two organizations.
It was a cause for cavils. Then load a number of factors. The first, paradoxically, is associated with the natural desire of some people to take place, which, in fact, does not correspond to their role in society, but they want to be more important for them to be higher… you Know, the man is bad in bed, he did not give a girl, and he engaged in violence — catches someone and rapes in the hallways. Why does he do it?
want to Assert themselves?
of Course. The motive about this. And it used the secret services. They calculated a person experiencing a subconscious envy of the fame or, as he may seemed, of some money potkina. And here he probably thought that if he stood at the head, it would be cool, he’d be happy and everything in life would be a success. This is not so.
the Second motive — the motive of the interception effect, the question is not fully understood by myself, but, nevertheless, in the initiation of this process involved the now convicted former employee FSB. Leadership of the process a person close to Motherland party for example, Ermachkov, a close friend of Rogozin, strange characters from the FSB… I subsequently Khomiakov was found and say, well, why do you such things about me writing? And he round eyes does and says anything about me not written — someone supposedly on his behalf writes.
In the end, they are also all planted. Why would these people have to be discontent? Because the methods that they suggested, would have led to mass incarceration for violent crimes. The activities of the “Northern brotherhood” was at least illegal. It allowed the use of violence against citizens — no matter Russia or not. This is very bad. So it is not necessary to do.
In your speeches in 2000 years you used such expressions as “nonpredatory” and “enemies of the people”. Now at least the first became part of official rhetoric.
Because I somehow in the national movement consist in 1990, I can say that the society “Memory” and Dmitry Yuryevich Vasilyev sometimes it even in a dream could not dream of (but, nevertheless, he was absolutely right, all of his predictions came true). All those things he declared had to be done, maybe not exactly those people who would like to.
first and foremost is the state ideology of patriotism, emphasis on building a traditional society based on the values of traditional religions, the confrontation with the West and isolation of Russia, the construction of a new “wall”, a kind of modified Juche idea on relying on our own strength, of self-sufficiency of our country. It is also a strengthening of the role of the army, the FSB, the military presence in the world and so on. All this fucking is implemented. In General, I wanted. I even have some cognitive dissonance arose.
So you all like?
No, not like that.
I would have adjusted some things. I think it’s Soros said: the man who never changes his views is an idiot. No one makes an error.
Lev Davidovich Trotsky, by the way, often changed their views on the basis of experience during his many love.
the Trotsky — Yes, it is a separate interesting topic. But sometimes the devil is in the details, sometimes the good ideas are spoiled by people who incorrectly perform them. If you make a kick-ass musical instrument and give it to the man who does not know how to play, everyone will say: what a horrible sound! And maybe even break it. Although blame for that musician.
So many people who have recently denounced us for what we are “respati”, laughed at patriotism as “the last refuge of a scoundrel” now are the main advocates of the state ideology, fighting against global anti-Russian conspiracy. All this has acquired the character of a bad dream and eclectic. If, say, a lot of coffee drinking can be bad. If you drink only coffee and not eating anything at all — the likelihood that the heart will honk greatly increased. The number cast on the people of patriotism devalues its value and is already disgusted. You can’t do that. No matter how much you love your wife or your country, if it is to make love regularly, and you still want to eat, watch TV, it begins to pall.
Any idea in the absence of a counterweight is committed to its extreme form. Whether in Russia, left-wing forces? They are also not as a class. There are a bunch of gradations of the right — do not count as nostalgic for the Soviet Union left. Would you agree with the thesis that Russia needs a normal modern left movement that can affect domestic policy?
I would agree that it is time to stop being afraid of ourselves and allow people to say what they think, in any form, be it left, right, far left, far right — doesn’t matter. It is impossible to restrict human thought.
If you look at the 90 years, a time of relative freedom, then that, too, was not left-wing forces.
I doubt the modern division into left and right.
Take conventionally, the American division on the left liberals and right conservatives.
Too not always helps. We have liberalism, in General, right. At the same time Communists we have called conservatives.
of Course, as they are called to “put everything back the way it was,” roughly speaking — to return to the Soviet tradition!
But classical conservatism and what they offer is different things! There are conservatives advocating for traditional values… And when a person says that bases its ideology written Karl Marx, and declares some things Marx would call the extreme right — it turns out eclectic, dissonance.
Left and right ideas can’t stand still, they evolyutsioniruet over time. No matter how much we say about Marx or Adam Smith, the philosophers and economists two centuries ago. All that remains in the past, becoming a tradition and, accordingly, may be appealing to one or other conservatives. If we have Marxism-Leninism frozen in its intact early twentieth century, in Europe and America left the idea developed.
These ideas, which is now called “new left” in some sense is old. There and Trotskyism used… Although I read some things Trotsky, understood that Stalin really (something for which he criticized Trotsky) pursued the same goals as he.
At certain stages.
of Course. Stalin declared that he was going to build socialism in a single country. Then Trotsky criticizes him for it. Stalin says, is confess your crime, let him get kills, and he does the same thing — building a world revolution, only more secretly and treacherously, without declaring an explicit goal. “We now free, and now there will be socialism!” that’s his idea, simple.
Stalin at a certain point began to pick up the old ideas of Trotsky, who long ago have moved away and developed a new, incompatible with Stalin.
actually, Leib Davidovich was a revelation for me. I was treated mostly based on the fact that it was written and spoken. But after reading him, I saw common sense. I, of course, is not impressed as an ideological beacon, but his views and impact on the present opened to me. I especially liked the point associated with his idea of a greater Europe, to build a just society — “a socialist” (in quotes). That’s impossible without advanced technology, which is just there. Otherwise, everything will slide into feudalism. The idea of free European Nations — again, Trotsky!
If so to say, to a considerable extent the Trotskyists and built the current free Europe.
In a sense, Yes. For me it was the part of the political spectrum, which I watched through a distorting mirror. And then I looked directly at him and realized that it is interesting and necessary to study. A bogey, the labeling result from the fact that people did not read [he writes another person] and build his argument indiscriminate demonization: Oh! It’s a Jew!
Leib Davidovich was a secular man, like his family, among other things. Leib and his family had not been asked only the Left.
the Jews-something he got from no less than the rest! (laughs)
Okay, back in our time. Probably a bit naive existential question: how further to live?
Well, as for me, I’m 25 years believed that my duty is selflessly serving the Motherland, help the Russian people and for any members of our Russian community, donating anything. In this regard, I have accumulated debts. I owe a lot to my family, ruined his health. So now, in addition to my criminal trial, I want to dedicate my time to family and recreation. So I have, what is called, “hero of socialist labor”! Let’s face it — to give me the title of drummer. I’m 14 years old in motion.
Well, shall we say, not quite socialist.
In a sense, is a socialist, because by way of my work, I was guided by the socialist principle. I worked generally for free, to reach certain General ideas, and took only what, maybe someone will provide the extra. It was, in a sense, a huge commune national-patriots. I myself haven’t hired anyone and never used these people, not used any added value. I have in this respect a purely socialist labor. My first entry in the workbook came about when I worked in the agricultural cooperative “Teremok”, the agricultural society “Memory”, and I worked for free, for ideas. This is the aerobatics of socialism. And in return received bed and food and form.
Readers learn about you a lot! Well, when it will expire six years, during which you are not allowed to participate in street actions, political activities and so forth, you expect to return.
do you plan to leave?
I don’t know. Honestly, before my arrest I knew that three days later I’m arrested, what will happen in three days now, I do not know.
Potkin gets up and walks to the window. Some time he talks about how the current government gradually implemented the majority of the movement against illegal immigration: tougher immigration laws, the necessity of studying the Russian language by migrants and their visits to his native country after several years of working in Russia.
the Correspondent of”.ru” also goes to the window and looks down. The cheerful citizens of the Central Asian republics continue to make noise and to paint the fence. “What do you say?” he asks Potkin. “I don’t care anymore — he is responsible. — Let them paint the fence. I used it to help somebody wanted to do something… And now let the Chechens into the streets raping and killing. I don’t care.”